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Shailesh Haribhakti Exclusive - 100X Companies, Rupee At 85 & No Tax Returns | The BroadView

The BroadView published 2026-06-04 added 2026-06-05 score 6/10
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ELI5/TLDR

Shailesh Haribhakti — a veteran auditor who spent four decades inside corporate India’s boardrooms — sits down with The BroadView and refuses to be gloomy. While everyone frets about oil prices, a weak rupee, and AI eating jobs, he argues the opposite: we’re in the most abundant moment in human history, Indian companies can grow 100x, the rupee is heading to 85 not 115, and within five years you may never file a tax return again. It’s a relentlessly upbeat tour through AI, blockchain, autonomous mobility, space data centres, and the end of the petrodollar. Take the timelines with salt; take the framework seriously.

The Full Story

The contrarian premise: abundance, not scarcity

The interviewer opens with the obvious worry — geopolitical pressure, high oil, inflation catching up after a couple of quiet years. Haribhakti waves it off.

We are living through the most abundant phase that this planet has ever known.

His engine for this abundance is AI, but specifically the recent shift to autonomy and agenticity — systems that act on their own rather than just answering questions. Earlier chatbots were “internet plus.” Now, he says, the ceiling has been “blown to the sky.” He leans on a line from minister Ashwini Vaishnaw at Davos: the most profitable layer of AI will be the application layer, not the chips or the models — and that, he argues, is exactly where India can play.

How a company becomes 100x

The “100x” claim sounds like a pitch-deck slogan, but his mechanism is mundane and believable: stripping out redundant layers of corporate work. He describes the modern company as a “seven-eyed person” — seven separate functions (enterprise risk, total quality management, internal financial controls, internal controls, internal audit, sustainability reporting, financial reporting) all looking at the same underlying facts for slightly different reasons. Hugely duplicative.

His second example is the army of contractors and the in-house staff hired to supervise them. With AI, he argues, you can collapse both.

A labor contract, multiple labor contractors working on a site, you reduce that to one… at less than one-third of the manpower.

The boards he sits on — startups to insurance, manufacturing to power — are his “learning laboratories,” where he tests whether these ideas survive contact with reality.

The jobs question, dodged with a reframe

The interviewer presses the obvious counterpoint: your “redundancy” is someone’s wage; your “productivity” is someone’s job. Haribhakti’s answer is more aspiration than rebuttal. Stop thinking scarcity. Turn the displaced into entrepreneurs. His prescription for surviving the transition is concrete and demanding:

Everybody, each one of us, should spend a minimum of two hours a day in self-learning.

It’s a genuinely large assumption — that a labourer freed from a repetitive task smoothly becomes a “value creator” — and the conversation glides over how that actually happens.

The ABCDE playbook

The interview is structured as an alphabet, which is a clean device:

  • A — Autos and AI. Mobility gets reinvented end to end. Robotaxis already run in 24 US cities; no reason they can’t come to India. Driving licences become “more or less irrelevant” in five years. Autonomous trucks, drone deliveries, even single-person aircraft. He cites a car that drove itself from California to New York, refuelling on the way.
  • B — Blockchain (he sets biotech aside as the weaker Indian story). His point is that blockchain got tangled up with Bitcoin and speculation, and we should forget that. The real use is as a trust pipe underneath population-scale digital infrastructure — UPI, Aadhaar — and especially inside government value chains.
  • C — Currency. A year ago he’d have said crypto; today the live issue is the rupee. More below.
  • D — Defense. Wars shift from bullets to drones, ICBMs, fully automated and AI-driven. He notes that without Starlink the Russia-Ukraine war “would have been over a long time ago,” and predicts a three-to-five-year “arbitrage period” of technological disruption in warfare — after which, in an abundant world, “all that is left to do is distribute.”
  • E — Earnings, kept at the top because it’s what ultimately matters. India’s earnings driver moved from commodities (2020) to TMT to today’s financials; the next leg, he says, comes from digital public infrastructure at scale and super-productive enterprises.

No tax returns, no litigation

His most vivid claim is governmental, not corporate. He believes the biggest beneficiary of AI and blockchain won’t be the flashy startup — it’ll be the state, because governments are enormous and their spending is “fat.”

I can envisage an India which does not need to file returns.

The vision: you receive a computed tax figure, glance at your own accounts, tick to confirm, and the money moves from your bank to the government. He’d collapse direct tax, indirect tax, and state levies into one administration — and, in an article written two days before the interview, argues all tax litigation could be collapsed too, using “known technologies.”

The rupee: 85, not 115

On currency he’s firmly optimistic. He acknowledges the dollar’s hegemony is fading — BRICS payment rails being laid, Iran reportedly collecting a toll in yuan rather than dollars, which Ray Dalio frames as “the beginning of the end of the petrodollar.” But his case for the rupee is energy, not geopolitics:

The minute the world realizes that we are moving to energy sources that are available to us ubiquitously and indigenously, the rupee value will start rising.

His five-year direction: “more 85, not 115.” Then a characteristic flourish — in five years we may not need currency at all, payments being an area he expects to be “disrupted maximally.”

Space, the Dyson swarm, and a holiday on the moon

Allowed to “run wild” (but only on things being experimented with, he insists), he sketches data centres in sun-synchronous orbit — solar-powered, no cooling needed, near-zero-latency compute — solving the real bottleneck on AI, which is energy. He’s read the SpaceX prospectus and is taken with its boldness; Google, Amazon and Bezos are all chasing it. Summer holiday on the moon? He’ll commit to 2035.

Reinvention as a personal operating system

The most grounded part is about himself. Eight years ago he sold the accounting practice he’d built with his father. Since then he taught himself “all the sciences,” moved into sustainability, then AI. His method for understanding anything new: tune your intuition to what is truly changing. He saw AI not as a chatbot but as a phase change — a caterpillar becoming a butterfly, which never reverses. And a clean reframe on why sustainability matters at all:

We are not doing all of this sustainability work to save the planet. We’re doing it to save ourselves.

His advice for the next generation — including the interviewer’s 14-year-old son and 22-year-old nephew anxious about jobs — is the same: become entrepreneurs and value creators, because you’ll have “a polymath sitting in your pocket at all times.” Books he returns to: the Bhagavad Gita on endless repeat, We Are as Gods (on the abundance revolution) right now, and a fresh reread of Homer’s Iliad and Odyssey.

Key Takeaways

  • The “100x” mechanism is layer-collapsing, not magic: seven overlapping assurance functions (ERM, TQM, ICFR, internal controls, internal audit, sustainability reporting, financial reporting) all examine the same facts redundantly.
  • AI lets you bring outsourced/contracted work in-house at under one-third the manpower, and shrink the supervisory headcount that managed those contractors.
  • Haribhakti’s framework: A = Autos/AI, B = Blockchain (biotech a distant second for India), C = Currency, D = Defense, E = Earnings.
  • Robotaxis already operate in 24 US cities; he sees no barrier to India, and predicts driving licences become “more or less irrelevant” within five years.
  • He cites Vaishnaw’s Davos point that the application layer is the most profitable part of AI — the layer India is best positioned for.
  • His big bet: the largest beneficiary of AI + blockchain is government, not the private sector, because government spending is so large.
  • The “no tax returns” vision: receive a pre-computed tax figure, confirm against your own books, money auto-debits from your bank.
  • He’d collapse direct tax, indirect tax, and state levies into one administration — and argues all tax litigation could be eliminated with existing tech.
  • Rupee call: appreciation toward 85, not depreciation to 115, driven by India moving to indigenous (renewable) energy and reducing oil import dependence.
  • Dollar weakening signals he cites: BRICS payment rails, Iran collecting an oil toll in yuan, Ray Dalio calling it “the beginning of the end of the petrodollar.”
  • Space data centres (sun-synchronous orbit, solar-powered, no cooling) as the answer to AI’s real constraint — energy. He references the SpaceX prospectus.
  • His learning method: focus intuition on “what is truly changing”; he frames AI as an irreversible phase change (caterpillar to butterfly).
  • Sustainability framing: we do it to save ourselves, not the planet.
  • Book picks: Bhagavad Gita (endless reread), We Are as Gods (currently reading), Homer’s Iliad and Odyssey (just reread).

Claude’s Take

This is a smart, decent man being relentlessly, almost professionally, optimistic. Some of it is genuinely sharp. The “seven-eyed person” image is a real insight into corporate bloat, and “the biggest beneficiary of AI will be government” is a non-obvious and probably correct call — tax administration and litigation really are mountains of repetitive paperwork waiting to be flattened. The reframe of sustainability as self-preservation is clean. The personal philosophy — sell what you’ve built every few years and retrain from zero — is admirable and rare.

But the BS filter has to twitch a few times. The jobs answer is the weakest moment: “turn everyone into entrepreneurs” and “spend two hours a day self-learning” is what you say when you don’t want to engage with the fact that displaced workers don’t smoothly metamorphose into value creators. The timelines are pure vibes — moon holidays by 2035, robotaxis blanketing India, currency itself disappearing in five years. And the rupee call (“85 not 115”) is asserted with the confidence of someone who’d rather will an outcome than model it; “100%” is doing a lot of work there. This is a man who reads SpaceX prospectuses for fun, and it shows — he’s intoxicated by the frontier.

Where it earns its keep is as a framework, not a forecast. The ABCDE structure and the layer-collapsing thesis are useful lenses even if you discount every date by a decade. Treat it as an optimist’s map of where the pressure is building, not a prediction of when the dam breaks. A 6 — engaging, occasionally insightful, but more sermon than analysis, with too many claims that float free of any mechanism or number.

Further Reading

  • We Are as Gods — the book on the “abundance revolution” he’s currently reading.
  • The Bhagavad Gita — his lifelong reread, across translations and contexts.
  • Homer, The Iliad and The Odyssey — which he reread last month and connected to the present.
  • Ray Dalio’s writing on the changing world order and the decline of the dollar (the petrodollar argument he cites).
  • The SpaceX prospectus / public materials on orbital data centres, if the space-compute thesis interests you.