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Only strategy, you need for swing trading! @VijayThakkar

Upsurge Club published 2024-03-29 added 2026-06-20 score 6/10
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ELI5/TLDR

A Mumbai sub-broker-turned-educator explains the one setup he actually makes money with: buy stocks that have just broken above a price they couldn’t cross for years — a 52-week high or, better, an all-time high. Wait for the old owners who got trapped years ago to finish dumping their shares near that ceiling, then ride the move once the ceiling breaks. He uses only three things — price, volume, time — no fancy indicators, holds for weeks to months, and risks about 10% to make 50-100%. The hard part isn’t the strategy; it’s the nerve to buy a stock at its most expensive price ever and the patience to sit through months of nothing.

The Full Story

The man who fell into the market

Vijay Thakkar’s origin story is the least glamorous version of a markets career. No trading family, no childhood obsession with stocks. His father had a job, Vijay drifted through a commerce degree with no goal, then spent six or seven months after graduation walking into random offices with a resume in his pocket — including a car-supply broker and a saree shop in Andheri where his less-educated friends were already working.

“After completing my graduation I’d carry a resume in my pocket… if any opportunity came up I’d hand it over.”

An uncle eventually handed him a phone number — a relationship manager at Motilal Oswal — and that got him a sales job he didn’t understand. “It said Sales Manager. I had no idea what the job would actually involve.” That accident is where he learned what broking was, what brokerage was, how it got calculated. When Motilal Oswal laid off a chunk of its sales staff in the 2011 crash, he took the severance as a sign and started his own sub-broking business with a one-lakh-rupee deposit at Angel Broking.

The pivot to technical analysis was just as accidental. A colleague named Rakesh Shah used to stare at charts. Vijay, watching the TV pundits say “good, good” while the stock fell, decided the talking heads were useless and started sitting next to Rakesh for half an hour, an hour, never quite asking to be taught, just absorbing. That’s how he found charts.

Why he abandoned everything except one method

He tried it all — scalping, intraday, BTST/STBT (buy-today-sell-tomorrow and its reverse). At one point his whole office would pile a hundred lots into a BTST signal. None of it stuck. Not because the methods don’t work — he’s careful here — but because they didn’t suit him.

“Everything works. You believe in God, in energy… it’s a matter of whether you choose to believe. People even trade off astrology, and if it’s working for them, who am I to insult it.”

His objection to scalping and intraday is lifestyle, not theory. They demand you sit glued to a screen, execute fast, manage constant stress. If you can get the same result with less effort, why grind? “You want to earn 4-5,000 a day, that’s labour. You want to build big money, you have to think big.” The methods that earn a daily wage — RSI, stochastics, Bollinger Bands — he tested them all and concluded none of them builds real wealth.

So he settled on momentum trading on a weekly-to-monthly timeframe, holding for what he now calls short-term: a few months at a stretch.

The actual setup: buy the all-time high

Here is the entire method, and it really is simple to describe.

The engine is demand and supply. More supply, stock falls; more demand, stock rises. Vijay only ever hunts for demand — he doesn’t short, just moves to cash with a stop-loss when things sour. The cleanest signal of demand is a stock making a 52-week high or an all-time high, ideally breaking a ceiling it hasn’t crossed in three-plus years.

“Price is my God, volume is my priest. Go to a temple and you find two people — God and the priest. Get those two in one place and the job’s done.”

The scan needs no magic. He literally Googles “52-week high,” clicks the NSE data, copies a name, pastes it into a chart on a weekly or monthly timeframe. No paid scanner. “People ask me, Vijay bhai, give me a scanner that throws the stock right at me — no such magic exists in the world.”

Why the old high matters — the trapped-buyer mechanic. This is the clever bit. Imagine NTPC’s 2008 high was 242. Someone bought there, watched it crash to 90, held in denial, eventually sold near the bottom in disgust. There were thousands of such buyers. Years later the price climbs back toward 242 — and every trapped buyer who’s been watching their stock daily finally gets to exit at break-even. Their selling creates a wall of supply right at the old high. The stock chops sideways — Vijay calls it consolidation near the resistance — until that supply is exhausted. Only then does fresh demand take over and the stock can double.

“A stock coming to its resistance for the first time almost never breaks straight through. Maybe one in ten does — and if it does, you should be scared, because it’ll likely fall back.”

Setting a target — range calculation. Take the old high and the all-time low, measure the range, and add it on top of the breakout. NTPC breaking 242 with a deep low underneath projects to roughly 400. He walked through the same arithmetic live for Maruti (a 2017-high breakout projecting to 15-16,000), Ashok Leyland (a 2018 high, then nine months of post-breakout consolidation), MRPL (a 2007 high broken after 16 years, then ~86-90% in two months), Chennai Petroleum, Tata Power (a 13-year breakout), and National Aluminium.

Post-breakout consolidation is a feature, not a bug. If a strong stock in a strong sector breaks out but the broader market turns ugly, a genuinely strong stock won’t fall — it’ll just stand aside and wait the market out.

“It tells the market: do what you want, fall as much as you like. When you stop and turn, I’ll start moving. The patience won’t be with me — it’ll be with the trader holding it for nine months. That’s the game.”

The mistake he keeps confessing: selling too early

His honesty here is the best part of the video. Persistent Systems broke out post-COVID around 950 after a six-year ceiling. His “big-brain” range calculation said target hit, exit — so he sold around 1,600 in four months for 56-60%. The stock then went to 8,500. Seven-bagger. He left it on the table because he didn’t understand the fundamentals — that a small-cap software company had a genuine business trigger that kept compounding.

“When you get twenty trades in a year — and I only need twenty trades a year — maybe one or two will be a Persistent. To know which, you have to read. That’s why I’m now learning fundamentals.”

He reckons it’ll take three or four years to learn fundamentals properly, and that the next version of him will hold the multi-baggers instead of clipping them early.

Risk management, sizing, and the cash default

The risk logic is deliberately crude. Buy 4-5% above the breakout line, set the stop-loss 4-5% below it — total risk roughly 8-10%. Against a 50-100% upside, the math carries even a poor hit rate: ten trades, five stop out at 10% each (50% lost), five make 50% each (250% gained), net well in profit.

“If a stock is breaking out after all these years and is genuinely strong like Ashok Leyland, it won’t go below its line — its Lakshman Rekha. If it does, it means the trade was going to fail anyway, like Eicher did for me.”

On position sizing he’s blunt: he does not believe in diversification. “Mutual fund people and financial planners tell you to spread your money around — you can’t build big money that way. You build it with concentrated trades.” Today’s Vijay concentrates; the old Vijay would have split ten lakh into ten one-lakh positions.

And the elegant default: in a bad market the system parks you in cash automatically. Eight of your ten positions stop out, no new breakouts appear until the market heals, so you’re sitting in cash without ever making a bearish decision. He sets price alerts and waits — he showed a pending alert on Force Motors he wants to buy only when it pulls back into his zone.

The closing sermon: stop buying options

The video ends with Vijay turning on the camera and addressing beginners directly, and it’s less strategy than tough love. Options trading, he argues, is where new traders with small capital go to lose it, lured by Instagram accounts flashing Rolexes and Lamborghinis.

“If someone could actually make that money, they probably wouldn’t be showing off. The people with real money never show off — it’s loose change that rattles, not the notes.”

His pitch: you don’t need options to grow 20,000 rupees. Put it in a breakout and make 15-30% — the percentage return is identical whether you’re working 20,000 or one crore. And he keeps coming back to the same challenge: open your P&L, check if you’re actually profitable, and comment honestly below. His read, from 2011 onward, is that most aren’t — and that the stress of holding overnight options positions, snapping at your family over a gift-Nifty print, isn’t worth the money you’re (not) making.

On India: he’s structurally bullish but won’t put a number on it. Having travelled to a developed country and seen the infrastructure, the manners, the patience, the per-capita income gap, he thinks India’s growth has barely started — and uses the Sachin Tendulkar analogy, that the team got stronger after the one great player left because he inspired many.

Key Takeaways

  • The setup in one line: buy stocks making a fresh 52-week or all-time high, ideally breaking a ceiling untouched for 3+ years, on a weekly/monthly timeframe.
  • Three inputs only — price, volume, time. No RSI, stochastics, Bollinger Bands, supertrend or moving averages in the decision (a 200-MA and a few others sit hidden on his chart, unused).
  • The trapped-buyer mechanic: old buyers stuck near a years-old high sell when price returns to break-even, creating a supply wall. Their selling must be absorbed (consolidation near resistance) before the stock can run.
  • First touch of resistance rarely breaks clean — roughly 1 in 10 does, and those are suspect.
  • Range-calculation target: measure (old high − all-time low) and project that distance above the breakout.
  • Post-breakout consolidation is bullish when sector and stock are strong but the market is weak — a strong stock waits sideways rather than falling.
  • Risk per trade ~8-10%: enter 4-5% above the breakout line, stop 4-5% below it. Upside is 50-100%.
  • Asymmetry carries a low hit rate: 5 losers at -10% and 5 winners at +50% nets a large profit across 10 trades.
  • No diversification — he runs concentrated positions, not 10 thin ones.
  • Built-in cash default: in a falling market, positions stop out and no new breakouts appear, so you end up in cash without making a bearish call. He never shorts.
  • He only needs ~20 trades a year; rare opportunities, not daily churn.
  • His recurring failure is selling early (Persistent Systems: exited ~1,600, stock went to 8,500). Fixing it requires fundamentals, which he estimates takes 3-4 years to learn properly.
  • Target return: 20-30% a year, which doubles capital every ~2.5 years. He prizes consistency and staying in the game over big numbers.
  • The scan is free: Google “52-week high,” use NSE’s list, chart each name.
  • On options: his blunt view is that beginners starting with options buying mostly lose; percentage returns in cash breakouts are identical regardless of capital size.
  • The bottleneck is psychology, not the method: buying at the most-expensive-ever price and sitting through months of consolidation is what filters out 99 of every 100 people.

Claude’s Take

This is a clean, honest version of a strategy that’s been around forever — Darvas boxes, Minervini’s VCP, Weinstein’s Stage 2 breakouts all live in the same neighbourhood. Vijay isn’t pretending he invented anything, and the trapped-buyer explanation for why old highs act as resistance-then-launchpad is genuinely the right intuition, explained better than most. The risk framing (small defined stop, asymmetric upside, low hit rate is fine) is correct and the cash-default mechanic — letting a bad market move you to the sidelines automatically rather than forcing a bearish bet — is a real edge over people who feel they must always have a view.

The honesty is the selling point. He volunteers his Persistent Systems screw-up, admits he’s only now learning fundamentals after a decade, and tells beginners to unfollow the Lambo-flashing options crowd. That candour is rarer than the strategy.

Two caveats keep this from scoring higher. First, his own admission does a lot of the work: this method has been ripping precisely because the post-COVID Indian market has been ripping — “30-plus stocks” gave fast returns with little consolidation. A breakout system tailwind in a momentum regime is not the same as a breakout system in a chop or a bear. Recorded in early 2024, near a frothy peak, the live examples are survivorship-flavoured — every chart is a winner, shown after the fact. Second, the range-calculation target and the 4-5%-above-entry rule are folk heuristics, not anything tested or backtested on screen; the “5 losers, 5 winners” math is illustrative, not a measured win rate. Treat it as a sensible framework, not a validated edge.

A 6: trustworthy presenter, genuinely useful core idea cleanly taught, dragged down by a long meandering biography, all-winner examples, and a method whose recent success is inseparable from a once-in-a-generation bull run.

Further Reading

  • Trade Like a Stock Market Wizard — Mark Minervini (the VCP / consolidation-near-resistance idea, formalised)
  • How I Made 2,000,000 in the Stock Market — Nicolas Darvas (the original “buy new highs in boxes” momentum story)
  • Secrets for Profiting in Bull and Bear Markets — Stan Weinstein (Stage 2 breakouts, base-and-breakout structure)
  • What Works on Wall Street — James O’Shaughnessy (the data on whether price momentum actually pays, across decades)